Interview by Marcus. Photos by CJ Harker.

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What are you doing back in Texas?

I’m just visiting family right now, and doing a little skate trip with some Philly homies. Came down here to skate some ditches.

When did you move to Philly?

I moved to South Jersey in August 2017 for school. Then I moved to Philly when I graduated in Spring 2019.

So how did you first meet Sloan?

I first met Sloan at the downtown skate park in Austin. He was there with his dog Rez and his girlfriend Peyton. They had just moved into town. He was like, “yo, is it cool to drink here or what?” After that he just messaged me on Instagram and started going on skate trips with us right away. He was down. As soon as we met him, we went on out of town trips that first week and he was just part of the group. It was sick.

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What did you go to school for? And why did you choose Jersey?

I have a degree in scientific glassblowing and I chose the school I went to in Jersey because it’s the only school in the country that offers that specific program. It’s a really old program that’s pretty well known. I was always interested in glassblowing and just wanted to find a way to do it for a living. My sister was working in a lab and that’s kind of how I got introduced to scientific glass blowing and now that’s what I do for a living.

So you make test tubes and shit?

I mean, test tubes get made by machines but yeah, I pretty much went to school to learn how to make custom lab equipment. I currently make inclinometers, little glass bubble levels that go in airplanes and firetrucks and trains.

Have you made a lot of bongs?

I haven’t. A lot of people in school are super good at that stuff. I made one in school and gave it to my friend to finish off.

What was the last video part you put out?

Last full part I put out was Echoes by Vinney Vallagomez. We worked on that one for probably three years, it came out in 2019 and it was a lot of Austin. He moved out to the East Coast the same time as me and Jeff Rasp. So we finished it up out here and it was a sick full length video.

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Who’s older you or your brother?

We’re twins. So we’re technically the same age but I was born 30 minutes first.

Have you ever used your twin status strategically?

We get that question a lot. We look a lot alike, but we’re not necessarily identical. I think it comes in handy. When we were younger, we got a couple acting jobs. We did a couple where we were so young that we both played the same character. They split up our hours so we wouldn’t go over child labor laws. Like some Mary Kate and Ashley shit.

Are you filming for anything right now?

Yeah, we’re filming for a homie video with our crew, the brokebois crew, broke boi entertainment. That’s part of the reason we’re down here in Texas. We’re trying to wrap it up over the summer and put it out in August.

How broke are the brokebois?

Oh man. Pretty broke. I have to say, man, it comes in waves. I think everybody’s stable, but we’re always broke, even when we got money.

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For people who don’t know, who are the brokebois?

This is just hard, true, real, homies in Philly. So we got Tyler and Henry and Jeff and Matt, and we got so many other homies that join us too. We got some homies up in New York that we skate with. We got a whole girl group of skaters that we skate with constantly like Jackie, Carla, Sophie, Bridge, Ang, Celina, Caroline, and everybody else.

Were you at FDR for that women’s contest? What was it like?

Oh yeah, for sure. I had to go support the homies. It was amazing. It was like one of the biggest turnouts for any event, if not the biggest. There was a lot of girls that came out and there was a lot of cool vendors and it was just amazing. And of course Caroline won. Queen Caroline. Yeah dude, it’s sick because Caroline and Jeff are dating and Caroline won this big contest and Jeff has won sober versus wasted. They’re like the current king and queen of FDR.

How many of Michael Sieben’s companies have you rode for?

I’ve rode for two of Michael Sieben’s companies. He’s had at least three board companies, or four? So it went from Bueno to Roger to Program and I got on Program, then they switched back to Roger and now I get Roger boards. But yeah, Michael Sieben’s the best.

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Tell us something about your awesome mom.

Well, my mom is the best. She’s just an old hippy lady who’s been a landscaper her whole life, horticulturist, you know. She’s a professional, but she’s a true lover of nature that just nerds out on it. She’s the sweetest person ever. We always kind of had the house where friends hung out growing up and she’s just always right there in the mix. Like she can hang with my homies even if I’m not there.

If the world collapsed do you think you’d be able to fend for yourself and live confidently?

Yeah, I’d say so man, I mean I grew up in Texas. I grew up camping my entire life and I think I’d be a good outdoorsman fending for myself.

What’s the most you’ve ever been tested on your survival skills?

A few years back Vinnie and Tanner and an ex-girlfriend of mine took a trip out to Big Bend National Park and ended up getting trapped in a flash flood when we were at an off the grid camp spot with no cell service on dirt roads. It was pretty much a whole day of physical and mental tests. It was a wild ride but I don’t regret any of it. Luckily we were out there with Tanner and he’s from the area so we did all right. We made it out. There were drugs involved, and driving a minivan through mud. There was a lot to it.

What’s something you don’t want people to know about you?

Why would I tell you that?

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Who would you rather be roommates with Bam or Andy Roy?

Oh god. Can I say neither? Do I have to choose? I think I’m going to say Bam, only because I think Andy Roy’s voice would drive me crazy.

What’s something that you wish you were good at, but you’re not?

That’s a tough one. I’m just going to say kickflips, because my brother is good at them and I always wish I had good kickflips.

What’s something you regret being good at?

Combo ledge tricks. I had that phase when I was younger. Probably didn’t need to go as far as I did. I went through the whole boardslide variation combo phase. I went through a whole slappy noseslide phase, but then that kind of blew up and I had to stop doing that.

You don’t do ledge combos anymore?

I mean, you got to bust them out every once in a while.

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